Senate Homeland Security Subcommittee on Disaster Management, District of Columbia, and Census Chair Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Ranking Member Andy Kim (D-N.J.) confer before a hearing on 'rogue' artificial intelligence on Capitol Hill on Sept. 30, 2026. (Francis Chung/POLITICO via AP Images)On Sept. 30, Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Subcommittee on Disaster Management, District of Columbia, and Census hosted a hearing titled “Rogue AI: Securing the Homeland Against AI Agent Attacks.” Witnesses included:Chris Painter, president of Model Evaluation and Threat Research (METR). Written testimonyMarius Hobbhahn, CEO of Apollo Research. Written testimonyPaul Ohm, professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center. Written testimonyKurt Gaudette, senior vice president at Dragos. Written testimonyDaniel Kokotajlo, executive director of the AI Futures Project. Written testimonyWhat follows is a lightly edited transcript of the hearing. Check quotes against the official recording. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.):Welcome everyone to this hearing today entitled Rogue AI Securing the Homeland Against AI Agent Attacks. This is the fourth hearing of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security Subcommittee on Disaster Management, which I'm delighted to work on with my ranking member here, Senator Kim. I want to thank our witnesses especially for being here, traveling to be with us today. Thanks to my colleagues for being here. Welcome to everybody in the room. I think we all know…

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